the real shock and awe

Jonathon Turley and Pat Buchanan just squared off on Hardball about the "torture debate." Turley stated unequivocally that the laws of the United States of America are the final authority on whether those who violated the laws and binding international treaties of the United States should be held to legal consequence as the result of their actions. In response, Buchanan proclaimed that he agreed in principle with Turley's statement, but that there was a "higher moral law" that said that because those who broke the law claimed to have done it to defend the nation and that even though they broke the law they did achieve the desired results, and they should be spared the consequences of their statutorially illegal actions.

If that is true, we may as well burn the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution and Bill of Rights of the United States of America.

If there is some unwritten "higher moral law" that supercedes the authority of the founding documents upon which our government is based, our founding documents are meaningless and void.

If torture is not punished, it is tacitly approved.

If torture is tacitly approved because it achieves the desired ends, the government is free to torture us.

If that happens, it will be time for revolution.


This is OUR fucking country.